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#131【アフタートーク】行ってきたぜ！
Before recording episode 131's after-talk, Furui stumbled onto a long, warm X reply thread between two strangers bonding over live manzai experiences, which set off a wide-ranging conversation about online defamation, a satirical "X driving-license" scheme, and the lost golden age of 2channel humor. The second half of the episode shifted to the show's listener-submission corner, where entrants riffed on manga including Death Note and Deriheru Yondara Moto Dōkyūsei ga Kita (デリヘル呼んだら元同級生が来た) with simile tsukkomi.
What this episode answers
Why did the X exchange the two found through ego-searching move them so much?
Starting from Kingyobanchou's (金魚番長) strength at the ABC Owarai Grand Prix, a 15-year-old user had been trading enthusiastic, criticism-free messages with another fan of Non-Style and Q-san — covering live visits to Evers, Batteryizu (バッテリィズ), Zaji (ザジ), and others — and the hosts praised the whole thread as "the proper way to use X" and "the bright side, exactly like the comedy threads on 2channel."
What kind of system is the 'X license' idea they came up with?
Modeled on driving school, it would require passing a paper test identifying problematic posts before gaining access; during a provisional period only limited-visibility "provisional posts" (仮ポスト) would be allowed, an instructor-type system would apply the brakes before a bad post goes through, and violations would result in a 2–3-year account ban.
What were the 'bright sides' of 2channel and summary sites that the hosts described?
Horror-story thread compilations, the "express every prefecture while naked" thread (the Hokkaido person does a giant leap, the Kagawa person shrinks very small, the Aomori person eats an apple), and the "anko de kōdō" (安価で行動) custom — where the comment at a designated number decides the thread starter's next real-life action — were all cited as humor entirely unconnected to defamation, with Densha Otoko seen as growing from the same culture.
What kinds of content appear on the two hosts' Instagram and TikTok timelines?
One host's feed is dominated by food-stall prep videos ("the iron-man uncle who serves 200 customers starting at 5 a.m.") and cooking content, while the other gets busty-gym, Pokémon, and anime posts; both also mentioned AI-generated clips of metal balls morphing into lions and tigers, and a live-action "Naruto School" set in a Crows (クローズ)-style world featuring One Piece and Naruto teams.
What kinds of submissions were read in the simile tsukkomi corner?
Two entries from Deriheru Yondara Moto Dōkyūsei ga Kita — one non-erotic (Sugitaka covering Suzu's ears during thunder) and one erotic (Sugitaka finally seeing Yamazaki-san's underwear from below) — plus a hagaki-shokunin-themed entry from Someone Hearts (サムワンヘルツ), a Shibuya mushroom-hat conspiracy-group "Shichishi Kaigi (七死会議)" entry from Kinoko Brothers (キノコ・ブラザーズ), and a Death Note entry about Shibui Marutakuo, who gave away his real name and nickname while hitting on someone and was thus the first one written in the Note.
The 'Bright Side' of X Found Through Ego-Searching
Before recording, Furui had been ego-searching "Kingyobanchou" (金魚番長) on X and found a long reply thread between two complete strangers who don't even follow each other. It began with Kingyobanchou's performance at the ABC Owarai Grand Prix, then sprawled into a deep dive: user A championed Reiwa Roman (令和ロマン), Shinkū Jessica (真空ジェシカ), Tom Brown (トムブラウン), Kinzoku Bat (金属バット), Evers (エバース), and Batteryizu, while user B went to bat for Non-Style and Q-san, both going on endlessly about their favorite acts without a single put-down.
User A had also attended the "Wa-chan no Yu" (和ちゃんの湯) event at Morinomiya Manzai Gekijō (森の宮漫才劇場) and seen Don de Gorude Sayaka (ドン・デ・ゴルデ・サヤカ) and Donapii (ドナピー) live, and on separate occasions caught Evers, Batteryizu, and Fusūya (フースーヤ) in person, plus Zaji (ザジ) and Yoshimoto Shinkigeki (吉本新喜劇). Lines like "Was there even time to see Zaji?" "I saw Yoshie (Zaji) do Panpan and their signature bit." "Seeing Zaji live is seriously insane" kept bouncing back and forth. When user A's profile revealed they were 15, both hosts burst out laughing — "We were completely sure it was an older guy." They called the whole exchange "the proper way to use X" and "the bright side of the internet, exactly like the comedy threads on 2channel."
The 'Dark Side' of X and the License Idea
The hosts describe today's X as "a dark sea of raw garbage." Opening the recommended timeline instantly surfaces pile-on posts; even during recording, one quick glance turned up defamatory content right after Pokémon. Anticipating that regulations will eventually follow, the two dreamed up the "X License System" (X免許制).
The model is a driving school. You would have to pass a paper test — "which of these posts is problematic?" — before being allowed to use the platform at all. During a provisional period, only limited-visibility "provisional posts" (仮ポスト) would be permitted. An instructor-type mechanism would hit the brakes the moment you tried to send a bad post. Violations would earn a 2–3-year ban, with offenders' numbers posted on an electronic bulletin board as they walked to the front. The two kept adding details until they were laughing too hard to continue.
The Golden Age of 2Channel Humor
One host was a dedicated user of Nico Nico Dōga (ニコニコ動画) and 2channel (2ちゃんねる) and took a moment to explain how summary-site culture worked: admins cherry-picked the funniest thread comments and earned affiliate revenue from the traffic. Standout examples included horror-story compilations and the "express every prefecture while naked" thread — the Hokkaido person does a massive jump to show the island's scale, the Kagawa person shrinks down really small, the Aomori person eats an apple.
They also broke down the "anko de kōdō" (安価で行動) custom: a thread starter announces "I'll buy whatever comment number 15 says," then executes the 15th reply's instruction in real time. There were even threads where people let the crowd write their romantic-confession scripts this way. Densha Otoko (電車男) was held up as the cultural pinnacle of this tradition. "This is what the internet was always good for," one host concluded — adding that they simply weren't looking at defamation or celebrity pile-ons back then.
Each Host's Algorithm
The hosts pointed out that using X's "Following" tab is now genuinely rare — the recommended feed has taken over. On Instagram, one is served food-stall prep clips ("the iron-man uncle who starts at 5 a.m. and handles 200 customers") and cooking videos; the other gets busty-gym content, Pokémon, and anime. AI-generated clips also came up as shared viewing: metal balls clanking and morphing into lions and tigers, and a live-action "Naruto School" set in a Crows-style world (クローズ風) where the One Piece and Naruto teams face off.
They analyzed ranking videos' retention trick — holding No. 1 until the very end — and noted that even the time spent panning over the comments section racks up view counts. A particularly sharp observation: if you keep fleeing X's pile-ons, you eventually wash up in the world of nukadoko (ぬか床), salt-kōji (塩麹), and "deliberate, mindful living."
The Simile Tsukkomi Corner
In the segment "Ware-ra ○○ Sedai" (我ら○○世代), listeners read a manga and submit a simile tsukkomi (たとえツッコミ); every accepted entry earns a sticker.
From Deriheru Yondara Moto Dōkyūsei ga Kita: two entries — from "Uzōmuzō no Wakazō" (うぞうむぞうの若造), Sugitaka covering Suzu's ears during a thunderstorm (the non-erotic moment), and from "4U," Sugitaka finally glimpsing Yamazaki-san's underwear from below (the erotic moment). The hosts speculated on whether Yamazaki and Suzu might be the same person.
From Someone Hearts (サムワンヘルツ, serialized in Jump), a "200-oku-kasegu Onna" (200億稼ぐ女) entry casting Mizuo-san as "unagi potato" — a riff on radio hagaki-shokunin (はがき職人) culture. From Kinoko Brothers (キノコ・ブラザーズ), an entry submitted under the radio name "Koko de" (ここで) — which the hosts couldn't help remarking on — featuring the Shichishi Kaigi (七死会議), a conspiracy-theorist group staging a mushroom-hat demo in Shibuya.
From Death Note (デスノート), an entry by "Furuichi-san, boku mo deshi ni shite kudasai" (古市さん僕も弟子にしてください) about Shibui Marutakuo (渋井丸拓夫), who gave away both his real name and nickname while hitting on someone and was therefore the very first name written in the Note. That spun off into a tangent about why Death Note character names are so strange — the in-universe explanation being that humans give children unusual names precisely so that if a shinigami (死神) writes them down it doesn't matter — and the scene where L and Light introduce themselves together as "Eru Rōraito" (エル・ローライト).
Takeaways
- A wholesome X thread of young manzai fans trading live-show stories without a hint of criticism struck the hosts as proof that the platform's original spirit still exists, in sharp contrast to the defamation-filled recommended feed.
- The hosts satirically designed a driving-school-style 'X License System' complete with a paper test, limited-visibility provisional posts, an instructor brake mechanism, and 2–3-year bans for violations.
- The simile tsukkomi corner's Death Note entry sparked a tangent about the series' bizarre naming convention — characters have strange names so that a shinigami writing them down carries no real consequence — capping an episode full of cheerful digressions.
This article is edited from a machine transcript of the first 30 minutes of the episode. It is not an official summary — please listen to the episode itself.