第63回「思い出深い曲」
In Episode 63 of Otagai-samass (お互いさまっす), Ito Sayari (伊藤沙耶里) shares how a trip to Taiwan finally turned her into a reader, and Matsuoka Mayu (松岡真由) reveals she supervised her favourite idol's first photobook — despite having no time to read a single book herself. A listener letter about a rōnin year and a mother's birthday message then opens the door to both hosts sharing the songs that have meant the most to them.
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What this episode answers
Why did Ito Sayari start reading despite previously struggling with books?
Her friend Morita Misato suggested there was a book even Sayari could read; during a stay in Taiwan she hunted down Natsuko Imamura's Tonkatsu Q&A in a local bookshop's Japanese section, finished it, felt she had caught the reading bug, and immediately bought two more books.
What concept did Mayu's photobook follow, and what makes it worth seeing?
The concept was 'Heisei girl boom,' drawing on Yofuruno-chan's shōjo-manga looks and figure; Narumiya provided full support, blending vintage retro items with currently available Mezzo Piano and Angel Blue pieces, and Mayu described the result as 'incredibly cute.'
What is listener Haruka's memorable song, and what is the story behind it?
During a year as a rōnin student, listener Haruka's mother added YOASOBI's 'Haruka' (夜遊び「遥」) to a birthday social-media message; Haruka listened to it whenever she felt like giving up and passed her first-choice university exam in February, closing her letter with 'By the way, my name is Haruka.'
What is Matsuoka Mayu's memorable song, and what does it mean to her?
SEKAI NO OWARI's 'Tonight' — she played it on repeat during her appearances in GTO: Kemonomichi (GTO・獣道) at 18–19 as a source of strength at work, and unexpectedly heard it performed live at a Sekai no Owari concert where her short film was being screened, crying 'an unbelievable amount.'
What is Ito Sayari's memorable song, and what dream is connected to it?
The melody played by an ice cream truck that made rounds through the massive apartment complex near her childhood home; the sight of every child and mother rushing out together felt like a dream, and the memory is tied to her declared ambition of running an ice cream truck someday.
Autumn Reading — Sayari Discovers Books in Taiwan
Mayu opens with 'it's reading season,' prompting Sayari to confess she had always struggled with written text and could never sit still long enough to finish a book. The turning point came through her friend Morita Misato (森田ミサト). While on location together, Misato said, 'There's a book even you could read, Sayari-chan.' Both hosts praised the perfectly calibrated way she delivered the line — 'not talking down, not talking up, just there with you' — calling her 'like a fairy whose words come from a different dimension.'
Acting on that recommendation, Sayari hunted down Natsuko Imamura's (今村夏子) Tonkatsu Q&A (とんこつQ&A) in the Japanese-language section of a bookshop during her stay in Taiwan. After finishing it she felt she might have 'caught the reading bug,' went back and bought two more books, and discovered that 'reading feels so good when you're already in the reading headspace.'
Mayu, by contrast, laughed that since starting her first-ever musical in April she has had no bandwidth for anything — not a single book, not a single Hello! Project song. 'Right now, half of me is not me,' she said.
Mayu Supervises Her Favourite Idol's Photobook
Though she has had no time to read, Mayu revealed she did *make* a book. She served as supervising editor on the first photobook of Yofuruno-chan (ヨフルノちゃん), a member of Tsubaki Factory (椿ファクトリー). Acting as something like a producer — deciding page layout and overall content — she got to dress her favourite idol exactly as she had imagined, an experience she described as 'kind of unbelievable.'
The concept was 'Heisei girl boom.' Yofuruno-chan's shōjo-manga-esque looks and figure were front and centre, with Narumiya (なるみ屋) providing full creative support. Vintage items sourced from retro shops were paired with currently available pieces from Mezzo Piano and Angel Blue (メゾピアノ・エンジェルブルー), producing a shoot where 'old dolls and the newest items coexist — it came out incredibly cute.'
On set, Mayu managed to direct Luna-chan (ルナちゃん) for specific poses, but the moment filming ended her shyness snapped back: 'Zero. Back to zero.' The two hosts compared switching on work mode to walking into a hair salon — professional the whole time, then leaving with extra warmth and a heartfelt thank-you. They also noted that owning your shyness at this stage in life is actually useful: it signals to people that they're welcome to relax around you.
Listener Mail — A Year of Studying, a Mother, and 'Haruka'
The hosts read a message from a listener signing off as 'Yasei no Sumaris-san' (野生のサマリスさん). After a year as a rōnin student she passed the entrance exam for her first-choice university in February. She wrote about the loneliness of that year and the guilt of worrying her beloved mother so much. On her birthday during the exam period, her mother added YOASOBI's 'Haruka' (夜遊び「遥」) to a birthday message on social media. 'I listened to that song every time I felt like giving up, and it carried me through to passing.' The very last line of the letter: 'By the way, my name is Haruka.'
Both hosts were floored. 'The fact that she doesn't use it as a punchline is what makes it so cool,' said Mayu. They called the ending emotionally charged and literary — her own name and the song title connecting quietly, with no fanfare.
Two Songs Full of Memories
**Matsuoka Mayu** chose SEKAI NO OWARI's 'Tonight.' She has been a fan since the era when the band wrote their name in kanji, and during the period she appeared in GTO: Kemonomichi (GTO・獣道) at 18 and 19, she played the song on repeat as a source of strength at work. Recently, a short film she appeared in — using the song 'Yokohama Blues' (横浜ブルース) — was screened exclusively at a Sekai no Owari live event. She attended that concert, and 'Tonight' was performed. 'I had no idea they'd play it. I cried an unbelievable amount. Hearing it at that moment, in that setting — it was just insane,' she said.
**Ito Sayari** went all the way back to childhood: the melody played by an ice cream truck that made rounds through the massive apartment complex near her home. When the music drifted in, every child and mother would come pouring out of their flats to buy ice cream. 'It felt like a dream — just the happiest thing.' The memory is so vivid that she declared she wants to run an ice cream truck when she grows up. Mayu immediately promised, 'I'll definitely come.' Sayari was specific about the vision: not the artisanal gelato of a trendy neighbourhood, but the old-school kind — just chocolate, orange, and vanilla.
Takeaways
- A single offhand comment from Morita Misato led Sayari to discover the joy of reading through Natsuko Imamura's Tonkatsu Q&A during a trip to Taiwan.
- Mayu supervised Tsubaki Factory member Yofuruno-chan's first photobook, collaborating with Narumiya to craft a Heisei-girl-aesthetic volume that blends vintage items with current Mezzo Piano and Angel Blue fashion.
- Both hosts' most memorable songs — SEKAI NO OWARI's 'Tonight' and a childhood ice cream truck melody — are each anchored to a formative moment that still shapes who they are today.
This article is edited from a machine transcript of the first 30 minutes of the episode. It is not an official summary — please listen to the episode itself.