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Sunday Pick: Unlocking Your Power at Work: Kara Swisher on how to get what you want | from Fixable

2026-10-25 · 35 min · 3 min read

Tech journalist Kara Swisher draws on more than 30 years covering Silicon Valley's most powerful figures to explain how power corrupts—and why leaders like Mark Cuban and Satya Nadella proved exceptions to that rule. She also reveals how losing her father in childhood forged a life philosophy built around zero everyday anxiety, and makes the case for mandatory ethics education in tech programs.

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What this episode answers

  • Why does Kara Swisher say she feels almost no everyday anxiety?

    Her father died when she was young, teaching her early that life ends—and that she could keep going even after the worst had happened. That realization sharpened her sense of time and hardwired her to move straight to solutions rather than panic over daily problems.

  • How does the mechanism by which tech entrepreneurs become corrupted by power work?

    When power concentrates in one person, the people around them become yes-men and anyone who speaks the truth gets pushed out; that structure breeds what Kara calls a 'mad king.' The richer and more powerful the leader, the more filtered and distorted the information they receive.

  • What is the most important lesson Kara took from her journalism career?

    The key shift was learning to ask not 'what is this person hiding from me?' but 'what lies is this person telling themselves?'—spotting the necessary fictions people use to get through each day changed the quality of her reporting.

  • What were the circumstances of Frances Frei's breakfast with Kara on Frances's first day at Uber?

    Frances had been hired as SVP of Leadership and Strategy at Uber during a public crisis, and a breakfast meeting with Kara was arranged for the morning of her very first day before she even walked in. Frances recalls that there was zero small talk—the hard questions started the moment they sat down.

  • Why does Kara call for ethics education in the tech industry?

    Technologists and entrepreneurs who will wield enormous power are being sent into the world without studying ethics, philosophy, history, or public policy; Kara has written about this problem in the New York Times since around 2018 and continues to call for ethics to be a required course in tech curricula.

A New Series on Power in the Workplace

Fixable hosts Anne Morris and Frances Frei are launching a special series on discovering and using your power at work, born from a shared observation: many listeners either don't feel powerful at work or are leaving the power they already have untapped. Their opening guest is Kara Swisher, who has covered the technology industry since the early 1990s for the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, and the Washington Post, and who now hosts the podcasts On with Kara Swisher and Pivot. Her book Burn Book: A Tech Love Story was a New York Times bestseller.

Frances and Kara's relationship traces back to 2017, when Frances joined Uber as SVP of Leadership and Strategy on the very day the company was in the middle of a public crisis. It was Frances's first day as a full-time employee after years of consulting, and a breakfast meeting with Kara had been scheduled before she ever set foot in the office. "Zero small talk," Frances recalls. "The hard questions started the moment we sat down."

The Most Important Lesson from a Reporting Career

The biggest insight Kara gained from decades of interviewing the powerful is about how to frame a question. She used to ask herself what a source was hiding from her. Over time she learned to ask instead: what is this person lying to themselves about? Every person tells themselves necessary fictions to get through each day, and learning to see through those fictions—rather than just probing for external deception—is what she says made her a fundamentally better journalist.

A Father's Death and a Life Without Everyday Fear

Kara describes herself as someone who experiences almost no everyday anxiety. She jokes that a dragon chasing her or a person with a knife would be another matter, but ordinary worry and regret are largely absent from her inner life. The source, she says, is losing her father when she was very young. "The worst thing happened, and I learned I could keep moving. So I can't panic over daily problems." That experience sharpened her sense of time and locked in a thinking pattern that goes straight to solutions rather than dwelling on fears. Her brother is an emergency-room physician, and she says all her siblings developed the same functional, problem-first coping style. "If feeling anxiety would bring my father back, I would gladly take it"—a line that captures just how much weight that early loss carries.

What Keeps Power from Corrupting—and What Doesn't

Kara has watched many Silicon Valley founders transform from awkward young men into some of the most powerful people on earth, and she has seen what that journey does to them. Among those she says did not get corrupted: Mark Cuban, who was somewhat arrogant early on but has grown noticeably more gracious; Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella; and Netflix founder Reed Hastings and current CEO Ted Sarandos. What they share, she says, is that they remain grounded and don't lord power over others.

When power concentrates in a single person, Kara warns, the result is always a "mad king." The circle fills with yes-men; people willing to tell the truth get pushed out one by one; and the more wealth accumulates, the more selectively flattering the information that gets through. She cites Howard Hughes as a cautionary historical example and adds, with characteristic bluntness, that some people were slightly unpleasant to begin with and simply become much more so once they have real money.

The Ethics Education the Tech Industry Is Missing

Around 2018, Kara wrote in the New York Times about a problem she considered glaring: ethics is not a required subject in technology degree programs. Engineers and entrepreneurs who will go on to hold enormous societal power graduate without any serious grounding in history, philosophy, or public policy. She says she was deliberate about nurturing her own son's interest in craftsmanship, history, and ethics as he studied mechanical engineering at the University of Michigan. She also takes aim at the factory-like structure of Stanford's entrepreneurship culture—drawing on journalist Theo Baker's book—in which venture capitalists recruit young founders the way college basketball scouts recruit athletes, then discard them when things don't pan out.

Takeaways

  • Losing her father early gave Kara Swisher a solution-first philosophy that underpins her entire journalism career—anxiety about the present cannot compete with already having survived the worst.
  • Power corrupts when yes-men crowd out truth-tellers; the more isolated a leader becomes from honest feedback, the closer they slide toward what Kara calls a 'mad king.'
  • Tech education urgently needs mandatory ethics, philosophy, and history courses, and the venture-capital pipeline that funnels young founders into high-pressure startup culture compounds the problem.

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