★133【ＡＴ】新しい漫才のオトし方

Johnny Depp and the Car-Sex Tangent

The episode opened by revisiting a Johnny Depp anecdote that had surfaced in the previous episode's ending. Depp, back in his amateur-band guitarist days, apparently had his sexual debut in the back seat of a bandmate's Ford with a female fan he had just met. "Having your first time with someone you only just met—that's wild," the hosts agreed, before the conversation drifted to "America has big cars, so there's probably a lot of car sex over there" and "you see scenes like that set in mountain areas in Japan too." The tangent also produced an elaborate fictional family tree in which Depp was installed as the "eldest son" of a unit Kishi and Takano belong to.

Going on Stage Without a Punchline—A Deep-Seated Habit

The main topic was a blunder at Radio Owarai no Hi, where the pair performed a set without having locked in the ending. Kishi and Takano have a standing habit of never running their material all the way through in rehearsal. As Kishi analyzed it, "We decide where Takano stops me, but we end up satisfied right before that one final line." The result is a recurring pattern in which the punchline is still undecided as the walk-on music plays. Sometimes Takano improvises a sharp comeback that lands cleanly; other times Kishi is left on stage "still thinking because I can't come up with anything good enough."

Kishi's "Ideal Ending"—A Full-Throttle Insult Rehearsal

Kishi's request is clear: he wants Takano to close the bit with something like "You're no good, you bastard, get out of here, I'll kill you—thank you very much." He claims to make this request before every show, but Takano keeps watering it down to "You're no good, sort it out." To practice on air, the show ran four themed scenarios—trains, a convenience-store part-time job, baseball, and taxi—with Kishi offering groan-worthy wordplay in each ("I guess I got the shift wrong—shift, get it?" / "There was a cosmic feel to that one" for baseball / "A taxi ride needs a geisha, don't you think?") and Takano firing back with "You bastard, get out, you're in the way."

Kishi continued to escalate. He asked Takano to call him fat and smelly, and even to work in real-life complaints such as Kishi repeatedly forgetting his mobile batteries. Takano eventually produced "You stink—how many mobile batteries are you going to buy, you idiot"—something approaching the genuine article at last.

Itō's Excuse Corner—Sparring with Tanihara Shōsuke

The regular segment "Oswald Itō's Excuse Corner" featured listener letters about Itō's work since this spring as MC alongside Tanihara Shōsuke on TBS's Sunday-morning information show Sunday Break (サンデーブレイク). To the listener who wrote "Please don't list Itō's name before the show title," Itō fired back: "The difference between someone who speaks in his own words and someone who just reads a script is obvious." A listener who mentioned backing a dark horse at the races received: "Dark horse is a word that belongs to Kirin, Warai Meshi, and us in 2019—don't repurpose it for horse racing." And a Halloween party invitation was flatly refused: "Don't invite a guy who's staking his life on stand-up comedy. Someone who dabbles in modelling, acting, and hosting without committing to any of it wouldn't understand."

The KOC Victory and the Yoshimoto Debate—Ending in a Nosebleed

Conversation turned to Geradon's King of Conte victory. Itō confessed that he has a trauma from being furiously berated by Iwakura, one of Geradon's members, "to the point of getting a nosebleed," and cannot bring himself to watch the final. Everyone had assumed "to the point of a nosebleed" was a figure of speech—until Itō clarified that he had actually bled during the scolding, a revelation that brought the studio to life.

The segment then shifted to an abbreviation dispute ("King of Conte should be called KOC") and institutional loyalty ("NGK being a big deal is a Yoshimoto-world thing; it has nothing to do with me"), with Kishi pushing back at every claim. Itō kept insisting "Yoshimoto is right," and Kishi observed that his "Yoshimoto sickness has gotten pretty severe." Itō didn't budge, and the corner ended, as it often does, in a storm of shouting.