# #66 言い合いキャンセル界隈 - Show: カメとキリギリス - Published: 2026-10-08 - Canonical: https://podc.club/en/episode/1840346355_6a3bbb7db97e.html - Audio: https://pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.megaphone.fm/TBS9868828998.mp3 - Source: Edited from a machine transcript of the first 30 minutes of the episode. Not an official summary. Episode 66 of Kame to Kirigirisu (カメとキリギリス) ranges from one host's formal declaration that she is done having arguments, to a boarding-gate misunderstanding, opinions on YouTubers, a foot peel debut, and a string of appliance-cleaning discoveries. The hour closes on a genuine eureka moment: always take your shoes off before trying a chair at a furniture store. ## What this episode answers ### Why did one host decide to stop having arguments? She realized arguing just leaves you exhausted and officially 'canceled' it — she used to clash often with her boyfriend over tidying, leaving the toilet lid up, and word choice, but has graduated from all that. The other host almost never argues to begin with; even minor marital friction resolves itself by dinner or bedtime. ### What went wrong at the airplane boarding gate? Waiting as Group 3, she misjudged the timing and stepped forward just as Group 4 was called, making her look like a line-cutter; an older man told her to 'queue properly,' and she silently went to the back rather than explain herself. ### What complaints do the hosts have about younger generations and YouTubers? She finds it uncomfortable that people in their 40s and 50s are so afraid of being seen as harassers that they shrink back, leaving younger workers emboldened to push upward; she also refuses to recognize YouTubers who outsource editing and plug in off-the-shelf sample music as 'real YouTubers.' ### What was the foot peel pack experience like? She wore the liquid-filled plastic-bootie foot peel for 40 minutes, then 4–5 days later the dead skin peeled off in satisfying sheets and her heels turned smooth — but a month later they were just as rough as before, leading her to suspect a deeper callus layer is still there. ### What did they discover while cleaning the humidifier, refrigerator, and rice cooker? Steam humidifiers kill bacteria before releasing vapor and are more hygienic than ultrasonic models, which can spray whatever is in the tank if not cleaned; the refrigerator shelves hadn't been washed in five years and a deodorizing charcoal block had shrunk to fingernail size; and she discovered this year for the first time that her rice cooker's inner lid is removable and is supposed to be washed every single time. ## Article ## Canceling Arguments The episode opens with the question "Have you argued with anyone lately?" One host says she has almost never had a real argument in her life — even in her marriage, the worst it gets is a brief "why did you say it that way?" moment, and by dinner or bedtime the air has cleared on its own. The other host used to clash regularly with her boyfriend over things like tidying up, leaving the toilet lid open, and choice of words. She has since made a formal declaration: she is "canceling arguments." Conflict, she decided, just isn't worth the energy. ## Trouble at the Boarding Gate During a work trip, she was waiting as Group 3 to board when she misjudged the timing. Just as she stepped forward, assuming Group 3 had been fully called, the PA announced that Group 4 could now board. Suddenly surrounded by Group 4 passengers, she looked exactly like someone cutting the line. The man next to her told her sharply to "queue properly." She nearly said "I'm Group 3, actually" — but thought better of it, said nothing, and went to the back of the line. No argument, just lingering awkwardness. ## Honest Thoughts on Younger Generations and YouTubers She catches herself starting sentences with "Kids these days..." and cannot stop. Her unease centers on a structural imbalance: people in their 40s and 50s are so afraid of being labeled harassers that they shrink back, which has given younger workers room to push upward with confidence. She is not sure that dynamic is healthy for anyone. On YouTube, she refuses to call someone a "real YouTuber" if they outsource their editing and drop in ready-made tracks from a sample-music library — picking a genre, a BPM, and a key and exporting the result. That is a starting point or practice session, she argues, not genuine creativity. She laughs and calls herself a "noisy old woman" for holding opinions like this, but she cannot help it. ## The Foot Peel Experience Dry skin comes up, and she has mapped the problem by body part: heels, ankles, knees — each dries differently. Her heels are the worst, snagging on socks so badly she worries they might crack open like a cream-filled cookie. Two months ago she tried a foot peel pack for the first time. The product is a pair of plastic booties filled with liquid; you wear them for 40 minutes and let your feet soak. Nothing happens that day. Then, four to five days later, the dead skin on the soles begins to peel away in sheets — painless, she says, "like a molt." Her heels came out completely smooth. One month later they were just as rough as before. Her theory: there is still a deeper layer of callus the peel did not reach. A repeat session is under consideration. ## Deep-Cleaning the Humidifier, Refrigerator, and Rice Cooker The humidifier conversation covers three types: ultrasonic, evaporative, and steam (the kind that boils water). Steam is the most hygienic because it kills viruses and bacteria before releasing vapor into the air. Ultrasonic models, if not cleaned regularly, can spray whatever is living in the water tank directly into the room. The white powder that settles on floors near ultrasonic humidifiers is likely crystallized minerals — limescale from the water — and letting it accumulate reduces the unit's effectiveness and can cause breakdowns. For the first time in five years, she pulled the shelves out of her refrigerator and washed them. She found expired food and a deodorizing charcoal block that had shrunk to the size of a fingernail. She also realized that soy sauce, mirin, and vinegar can be stored at room temperature, freeing up a surprising amount of space inside. The rice cooker revelation: she noticed this year, for the first time, that there is a small removable inner lid on the inside of the main lid. The words "wash every time" are molded into the plastic. She had not known it came off at all. The episode's final discovery involves a furniture store. She tested a bath stool at Nitori while wearing shoes, bought it, and found it too tall once she got home — the thickness of her soles was enough to throw off the fit. She had made the exact same mistake with a sofa years earlier. Her conclusion, delivered in earnest: every furniture store, including budget ones, should post a sign reminding customers to remove their shoes before sitting down. ## Takeaways - The host who declared she is 'canceling arguments' still lets frustrations slip out — about younger generations and about YouTubers who don't do their own work — so the silence is never quite total. - One foot peel session smoothed her heels beautifully, but they were rough again within a month, making callus care an ongoing commitment rather than a one-time fix. - Always remove your shoes when trying chairs or sofas at a furniture store — sole thickness shifts the effective seat height enough to make a purchase feel wrong at home.