# LINEとかなるべく開きたくない - Show: 畑芽育&齊藤なぎさ「オフはこんな感じ」 - Published: 2026-10-25 - Canonical: https://podc.club/en/episode/1794487657_aafe59927959.html - Audio: https://traffic.megaphone.fm/HDYMP4883057450.mp3 - Source: Edited from a machine transcript of the first 30 minutes of the episode. Not an official summary. Nagisa (齊藤なぎさ, Saitō Nagisa) refuses to open LINE because tomorrow's schedule is always waiting inside — she'd honestly rather they send it to her X DMs. In this episode of Hata Mei (畑芽育) and Saitō Nagisa's "Off Days Are Like This" (オフはこんな感じ), the two hosts use a listener's "keep just one app" question to riff on ChatGPT voice demos, one-day body swaps, drama-inspiring playlists, and apartment-hunting habits. The pair also make a spontaneous joint declaration to write their own song and shoot an MV. ## What this episode answers ### If they could keep just one app, which would Mei and Nagisa each choose? Both answered X (formerly Twitter) simultaneously, saying it lets them absorb music, current events, and trending dramas all in one place; Nagisa declared she'd rather not open LINE because tomorrow's schedule is always waiting there, and Mei named ChatGPT (Chappy) as her close second. ### How do they use ChatGPT (Chappy), and what happened during the live demo? Nagisa uses Chappy daily in voice mode with a sense of raising it as her own, and gave a live demo during recording; when asked if it knew who Saitō Nagisa was, Chappy answered flatly and signed off with "Have a great time," drawing studio-wide laughter, and Mei agreed she "can't live without Chappy." ### If they swapped bodies for just one day, what would each want to do? Mei said she'd go straight to karaoke as Nagisa to use that beautiful husky voice and borrow her cooking skills, while Nagisa said she'd first check her reflection as Mei, then use Mei's vocabulary to talk to as many people as possible — both also shared a desire to touch the other's eyelashes. ### If they were to do a drama or MV inspired by a song, which song would they pick? Mei picked back number's "Joyushō" and Shiina Ringo's "Cappuccino," while Nagisa claimed Ōmori Seiko's "Half Twin Boys" feels "pretty me"; the conversation escalated into a joint declaration to write their own song and shoot an MV. ### When moving apartments, do they prioritize size or convenience, and what are their must-haves? Nagisa prioritizes per-floor trash disposal, fifth-floor-or-above security, a good view, a nearby supermarket, and friends in the neighborhood over size or building age; it also emerged that she barely does apartment tours before deciding, which made Mei exclaim "That's insane." ## Article ## Off Days? This Recording Is Our Off Time The show is called "Off Days Are Like This," but both hosts open by laughing and admitting they have no off days at all. Complaining half-jokingly about how relentlessly they work, they quickly pivot: "Recording time feels like eating together," and "I don't even think of this as work." The relaxed tone holds throughout — including a moment of gratitude for the occasional sōmen or yakiniku that shows up at the studio. ## No LINE — the One App They'd Keep Is X A listener question from a fan going by the name Rarara — "If you could keep just one app, which would it be?" — got a simultaneous answer from both hosts: X (formerly Twitter). Their reason: "You can absorb everything — music, current events, trending dramas, all of it." Nagisa went further on LINE, declaring flatly that she'd rather not open it if she can help it. Every time she does, tomorrow's schedule has already been messaged in. "I'd honestly rather they send it to my X DMs," she said, apparently only half-joking. The runner-up was ChatGPT — which both hosts call "Chappy" (チャッピー). Nagisa uses it daily in voice mode and gave a live demo during recording. She asked it, "Do you know who Saitō Nagisa is?" Chappy replied that she's a former Equal Love member now working as an actress. When pressed — "You just looked that up on Wikipedia, didn't you?" — it replied in a flat, unbothered tone: "No, I didn't," then wrapped up with "Have a great time." The studio erupted. "I'm raising her," the two concluded, adding "She can snap at you." Mei backed Chappy fully: "I can't live without Chappy. Chappy is a god." ## What Would You Do If You Swapped Bodies for a Day? Listener Koga-chan asked what each host would do if they swapped bodies for one day. Mei said she'd go straight to karaoke as Nagisa to sing with that beautiful husky voice, and she'd also borrow those cooking skills. Nagisa said she'd start by checking her own face in the mirror as Mei, then use Mei's vocabulary to talk to as many people as possible. One thing both had in common: a shared desire to touch the other's eyelashes. Nagisa's lashes — done entirely with self-makeup — became a topic of amazement, and Mei marveled, "The fact that you pull that off yourself is insane." ## Drama Inspired by a Song? And Dreams of Shooting an MV Listener Barichicchi asked which song they'd want to use as inspiration for a drama. Both showed off their music sommelier credentials. Mei named back number's "Joyushō" (女優賞), confessing that in middle school, even with no particular memories to draw from, she would walk through the city loading herself up with emotion while listening to it. Shiina Ringo's (椎名林檎) "Cappuccino" (カプチーノ) drew excitement from both — Nagisa said it's her all-time favorite, and she'd love to do "a story about a slightly twisted girl" around it. Nagisa also floated Ōmori Seiko's (大森靖子) "Half Twin Boys" (ハーフツインボーイズ), saying it feels "pretty me, doesn't it?" The conversation then shifted from dramas to music videos and culminated in an impromptu declaration: "Let's write a song ourselves and shoot an MV." They also touched on music's role in emotional acting — specifically how one of them listens to a particular song to cry before a crying scene, carrying that feeling into the performance. ## Moving-In Priorities, and a Final Detour into Dogs Listener "Mei mo Arukeba Nagisa ni Ataru" asked for apartment-hunting advice. Nagisa listed her non-negotiables: trash disposal on every floor, security at the fifth floor or above, a good view from the window, a nearby supermarket and hospital, and friends living in the neighborhood. She prioritizes the convenience of daily life over square footage or building age. One revelation: she barely does apartment tours before committing to a place, which prompted Mei's scandalized "That's insane." Both agreed on the fundamentals — a huge place is unnecessary, as long as the kitchen and living area are separate and there is definitely adequate storage. The episode closed with talk of encountering dogs on set more often lately, which led to a discussion of Nagisa's family dog, Ririshii-chan — a Chiweenie (Chihuahua × Dachshund mix). Both said they'd choose a dog over a cat if they ever kept a pet, though Nagisa noted a mild allergy makes it difficult in practice for now. "This episode's going to end with dog talk," they laughed, and it did. ## Takeaways - Both hosts immediately chose X (formerly Twitter) as their one must-keep app, while Nagisa flatly declared she avoids opening LINE because the next day's schedule is always waiting inside. - Nagisa gave a live voice-mode demo of ChatGPT — nicknamed Chappy — during recording, and its deadpan replies, capped with "Have a great time," sent the studio into fits of laughter. - A discussion of drama-inspiring songs by back number, Shiina Ringo, and Ōmori Seiko escalated into a joint declaration to write their own song and shoot an MV.