# 広瀬すずの「よはくじかん」#157 ゲスト：尾野 真千子さん - Show: 広瀬すずの「よはくじかん」 - Published: 2026-10-10 - Canonical: https://podc.club/en/episode/1712799353_5c66654cde35.html - Audio: https://traffic.megaphone.fm/TFM1697493122.mp3 - Source: Edited from a machine transcript of the first 30 minutes of the episode. Not an official summary. Actress Ono Machiko (尾野真千子) returns for her second week as a guest on Hirose Suzu no "Yohaku Jikan" (広瀬すずの「よはくじかん"). The two discuss their film Itsu Hoshi no Gotoku (何時星のごとく), released October 9, including Ono's role as Kai's volatile mother, the eerie hush that falls over the set the moment she walks in, and how their co-star Hasegawa-san finally landed the nickname "Piroki" after filming wrapped. ## What this episode answers ### What roles did each actress play in Itsu Hoshi no Gotoku? Hirose Suzu plays Akimi and Yokohama Ryusei plays Kai as the two leads, while Ono Machiko plays Kai's mother — a snack-bar mama prone to heavy drinking and violent emotional swings — and Kimura Yoshino plays Akimi's mother, creating two contrasting parent-child dynamics that run through the entire film. ### Why did the entire cast go silent every time Ono Machiko arrived on set? According to Hirose, when Ono is not around everyone is relaxed and chatting normally, but the instant she appears, cast members instinctively want to "look cool" and feel "stripped bare," causing them to fall silent — a feeling Ono herself only noticed after the fact; Yokohama Ryusei was so affected by her performance that he kept repeating "Onomachi-san is seriously incredible" in press interviews. ### Why did Ono and Hirose struggle to keep straight faces during their shared scene? After growing close during production, the two nearly broke into laughter the moment they made eye contact in rehearsal, so they made a pact to keep straight faces in the actual take — but even then they could not look each other directly in the eye, resorting to staring at each other's nose tips or focusing on just one eye at a time. ### How did co-star Hasegawa-san end up with the nickname "Piroki"? Hasegawa-san, who plays Kitahara-sensei, always struck both women as a mysterious figure they didn't know how to address; it was only this year — after filming — that the nickname "Piroki" was settled on, when Ono declared "I'm calling you Piroki from today" and Hasegawa-san immediately replied "Sure." ### What was director Fujii's directing style like on set? Director Fujii gives detailed, frequent notes but communicates them with exceptional clarity, scripting his feedback so carefully each time that Hirose said she found herself thinking "is it really okay for him to spell it out this clearly?", which made the set feel approachable and easy to work in. ## Article ## The Film *Itsu Hoshi no Gotoku* and Each Character Released on October 9, *Itsu Hoshi no Gotoku* follows a man and a woman who meet on an island in the Seto Inland Sea and traces fifteen years of love and life choices. Hirose Suzu plays Akimi and Yokohama Ryusei plays Kai, the two leads at the center of the story. Ono Machiko takes on the role of Kai's mother — a snack-bar mama who drinks heavily and swings between emotional extremes. Hirose described her as "a truly awful mother" and "like a blade," giving a sense of how intense a presence she cuts in the film. Akimi's mother is played by Kimura Yoshino, and the two contrasting parent-child pairs form a throughline running the length of the story. Ono's scenes amount to only a handful of shooting days across the entire production, but every one of them is dense with raw emotional force, and her impact on the set was, by all accounts, enormous. ## The Phenomenon: Silence Falls When Ono Walks In Time and again during filming, the moment Ono arrived on set every cast member went quiet. When Hirose asked "Why does everyone go silent?", Ono laughed and explained: "I want to look cool, but it feels like I'm being stripped bare — I just end up doing it." Ono herself only realized afterward that her voice had been the only one in the room and was genuinely surprised. Yokohama Ryusei was so struck by her work that he kept repeating "Onomachi-san is seriously incredible" in film press interviews, as Hirose revealed on the show. Ono deflected with a shy smile: "Am I really that incredible? That scene though..." ## The "Let's Not Laugh" Strategy The scene the two share together is one of the most important in the film, but by the time they came to shoot it, they had grown so close that the instant they locked eyes in rehearsal they both knew: "This is not going to work." They made a pact to keep straight faces in the actual take — yet even then, neither could look the other directly in the eye. Instead they resorted to staring at each other's nose tips or focusing on just one eye at a time. "There's a real risk of an NC," they joked, and "We'd both end up acting like Ashura." But if audiences come away feeling the scene is "bittersweet" and "fleeting," the two agreed, it will have been a success. ## Hasegawa-san and the "Piroki" Question The conversation grew animated when the two turned to Hasegawa-san, who plays Kitahara-sensei in the film. Both agreed he is "mysterious when you only read about him on paper" and "a perfect fit for the role," but for a long time neither knew what to call him. Ono admitted she had spent much of the shoot watching him through gaps in doors or from a distance; Hirose sympathized, saying she "had no idea how to handle him." This year, a resolution finally arrived: he would be "Piroki." Ono simply announced "I'm calling you Piroki from today," and Hasegawa-san replied with an immediate "Sure." Hirose laughed and insisted she could never bring herself to use the name — "Please don't try to get me involved in this at all." ## Director Fujii's Direction and Next Week's Preview Both women agreed that director Fujii gives a lot of notes, but praised the clarity with which he delivers them. Hirose said: "He scripts his feedback so carefully every time that I found myself thinking, 'Is it really okay for him to spell it out this clearly?'" That thoroughness made the set an easy place to rely on him. Ono described him as shy overall, but noted: "He clicked with Hirose-kun — I could tell it was going to keep going." The episode closed with the two excitedly making plans for an Okinawa location recording session and a marine sports outing. Next week, director Fujii Kazuhito joins as a guest to talk about the film from a different angle. ## Takeaways - Ono Machiko's on-set presence was so commanding that the entire cast fell silent the moment she appeared, with Yokohama Ryusei publicly calling her performance "seriously incredible" in press interviews. - Hirose and Ono had to avoid direct eye contact during their key shared scene because getting too close off-camera made it nearly impossible to keep straight faces, forcing them to stare at each other's noses instead. - After filming wrapped, Hasegawa-san (Kitahara-sensei) finally got the nickname "Piroki" — proposed by Ono this year and accepted by him on the spot — though Hirose vowed she could never bring herself to use it.