# #179 【マイワイフよ・・・】今回も柳沢怜さんとお焚き上げ！

- Show: 大吉ポッドキャスト　いったん、ここにいます！
- Published: 2026-10-07
- Canonical: https://podc.club/en/episode/1681035454_b010ab02ac04.html
- Audio: https://pdst.fm/e/pscrb.fm/rss/p/traffic.megaphone.fm/TBS7555397176.mp3
- Source: Edited from a machine transcript of the first 30 minutes of the episode. Not an official summary.

On the release day of TM Network's first album in three years, Rei Yanagisawa's husband played his copy in the living room before her own had even arrived, sparking a conversation about how couples who share the same hobby can still experience things in completely different ways. The episode also takes up three listener topics for the segment known as Otakiage: an OTP text that keeps arriving from a stranger's credit card, a blind date where one woman vanished at bill time, and a teenager's plea for their tech-averse mother to just Google things herself.

## What this episode answers

### What trouble did the couple run into on the day TM Network's new album came out?

Rei Yanagisawa's husband played his copy of the TM Network album on the living-room stereo before her copy had arrived; she had been looking forward to the full 'unboxing ceremony'—examining the disc from every angle and sitting formally as the first track began—and, knowing it was well-intentioned, held her feelings for a while before calmly letting him know 'for future reference.'

### What should you do when someone else's credit card OTP messages keep arriving on your phone?

Contact the card company through an online form or chat rather than calling, since the phone window has limited hours and calls are billed to you; even if the messages are not fraudulent, your number remaining linked to someone else's card is itself a risk worth resolving.

### What happened at Kounodori-san's first gokon in ten years with women from a marriage-hunting school?

One of the two women from the marriage-hunting school said she had no cash because she'd switched bags, disappeared to the bathroom just as the bill arrived, took a long time to return, and then complained about having no umbrella—Kounodori-san, who had looked up the course price in advance and brought exact cash, ended up covering her share.

### How has gokon culture changed since matching apps became widespread?

Old-style gokon was a hit-or-miss affair where you had no idea who would walk in; now people check profiles on SNS and matching apps and even verify MBTI compatibility before meeting, something Daikiichi described as 'suffocating when data pre-guarantees the match' while also admitting he envies young people for it.

### Is there any way to get a tech-averse mother into the habit of looking things up herself?

Daikiichi's answer was blunt: 'She won't—she'll just start pretending she looked it up'; support pages bury answers under lengthy preambles that are hard to navigate for the tech-averse, making it entirely rational to ask a nearby family member instead, and Yanagisawa added a humorous alternative: tell her you'll start charging a tutoring fee.

## Article

## TM Network's New Album: The 'He Played It First' Problem

Rei Yanagisawa (柳沢怜) is a longtime TM Network fan — and so is her husband. For the band's first album in three years, the two ordered from different stores to pick up different store-exclusive bonuses. Release day fell on a public holiday, and her husband's copy arrived first. He listened to it repeatedly in his own room, then carried it to the living room and put it on the stereo component — at which point Rei's copy had still not shown up.

What Rei had been looking forward to was the full 'unboxing ceremony' (開封の儀): turning the CD over in her hands from every angle, carefully slitting the wrap, and then sitting formally while the player's spin-up sound led into track one. Knowing her husband meant well, she let the feeling settle for a while before gently telling him 'for future reference.' Host Daikiichi (大吉) was sympathetic: 'You can't know unless someone says something.'

Daikiichi shared a parallel from his own marriage: his wife used to wander off for coffee or take a phone call just as his segment was about to air on the TV show Ametalk. He said he came to realize fairly early that 'this is just how ordinary viewers watch television.' The conversation landed on the idea that even after years together, partners' sensibilities rarely converge on their own — which makes early, explicit communication all the more important.

## Otakiage ①: A Stranger's Credit Card OTP Keeps Coming to My Phone (Shake-san, woman in her 20s)

For several years, Shake-san has been receiving one-time password SMS messages from a card company she has no account with. It appears that someone registered her phone number with one digit wrong, and the actual cardholder keeps requesting resends because the codes never reach them. She thought about calling the card company to sort it out, but backed off when she learned the phone window has limited hours and calls are billed to the caller.

Daikiichi offered a relatable example: 'When your eyesight starts going, you think you typed 080 but it comes out 070.' Yanagisawa added that she once had emails repeatedly go undelivered because she kept typing ne.jp as co.jp. The conclusion was that Shake-san should take action for her own protection — and if the phone line feels like too high a hurdle, the hosts recommended using the card company's online contact form or chat service instead.

The topic broadened to cashless payments. Daikiichi recalled seeing a news story about a Chinese vegetable stall with a QR code pasted to the front and thinking, 'Japan will never end up like that' — only to find himself barely touching cash a short time later. Both hosts also voiced the shared worry that a system outage could bring the whole economy to a standstill.

## Otakiage ②: The Bill Escape at a Gokon After 10 Years (Kounodori-san, Tokyo)

Kounodori-san joined a 3-on-3 gokon with two women from a marriage-hunting school. After dinner, one woman said she had no cash because she had switched bags, headed for the bathroom — and didn't come back for a very long time. When she finally reappeared, she announced that she had no umbrella despite the rain. Kounodori-san had looked up the course price beforehand and prepared the exact cash; he ended up paying her share as well.

Daikiichi noted that anyone serious about marriage hunting ought to at least sort out their money in advance, but offered a softer reading: 'It's also possible she sized up the situation, decided there was no spark, and deliberately avoided paying.' Either way, he said, coming fully prepared the way Kounodori-san did was 'huge points in his favour.'

From there the conversation shifted to how gokon culture has transformed. It used to be a hit-or-miss affair — nobody knew who would walk through the door until the night itself. Now people check profiles on SNS and matching apps and some even run MBTI compatibility checks before agreeing to meet. Daikiichi told a self-deprecating story about his colleague Kenji Tanaka (田中賢治), who once bought a gadget that was supposed to glow when two compatible people came close, and spent an entire night walking the streets without it lighting up once. Daikiichi said he finds it 'suffocating when data pre-guarantees compatibility,' but added, almost wistfully, 'I do envy young people today, swiping away on those apps.'

## Otakiage ③: Please Just Google It Before Asking Me (A Busy High Schooler, 17, Mie Prefecture)

No matter how many times this listener has asked their tech-averse mother to try searching for answers before coming with questions, the mother always skips that step entirely. Is there any way to build that habit?

Daikiichi was direct: 'No. She'll just start pretending she looked it up.' Support pages stack lengthy introductory text in front of the actual answer, and for someone who finds technology daunting, asking a family member who's right there is simply the more rational move. Daikiichi said he personally likes to squeeze every feature out of a device, but explained that people who only want the basics have no motivation to wade through manuals or help sites at all. Yanagisawa offered a lighter solution: 'Tell her you're going to start charging a monthly tutoring fee.'

## Takeaways

- Even couples who share the same hobby experience it at different depths — if something needs saying, say it early rather than assuming a partner will naturally understand.
- For a modern nuisance like misdirected OTP texts, an online contact form or chat is a more practical solution than trying to reach a card company's phone line.
- Getting a tech-averse person to develop a self-research habit is essentially impossible; the person doing the teaching is better off accepting that from the start.