# 2026年10月14日(水) ナイツ ザ・ラジオショー(パートナー安藤なつ)

- Show: ナイツ ザ・ラジオショー【最新回のみ】
- Published: 2026-10-15
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- Source: Edited from a machine transcript of the first 30 minutes of the episode. Not an official summary.

Knights (ナイツ) welcomed Ando Natsu (安藤なつ) as a guest partner on their Radio Show, filling the episode with food talk, fan encounters, and drama updates. Ando walked through her disastrous live-streamed attempt to make mozzarella cheese—which turned into cottage cheese—and passionately argued for eating a shrimp the size of her own body. The episode also covered a surreal fan recognition moment at a red light and a steak-doneness debate sparked by a new TV drama.

## What this episode answers

### What happened when Ando Natsu tried to make mozzarella cheese at home?

She ended up with cottage cheese: she used milk of uncertain type and failed to control the temperature properly, so the curds never stretched, leaving a crumbly result. The whole attempt played out in front of a live-streaming audience.

### What is Ando Natsu's dream food experience?

Her dream is to eat a shrimp as large as her own body—bigger than spiny lobster or American lobster—enjoying it in every style: sashimi, tempura, deep-fried, mayo-grilled, and avocado-shrimp gratin, all in one full-course meal.

### What was the fan encounter at the red light like?

While stopped at a red light soaking wet in the rain on her way home from work, she felt the man in the car next to her staring; when she looked over, he was holding up his smartphone screen showing the text 'Are you Ando Natsu?' She had been recognized through a window before, but never via a phone screen—she responded by raising her hand.

### What was the memorable scene from the drama 'Banshaku no Ryuugi'?

Wada-san plays a stakeout detective who is dead-set on cooking gourmet food during the surveillance; he gets into a full argument with his partner over whether to make garlic steak or Japanese-style steak, and the two keep debating even after the suspect starts moving. The wrap party served actual garlic steak, which everyone agreed was delicious.

### What opinions came out about steak doneness?

Ando Natsu declared herself a 'cooked-a-little-past-medium-rare red-meat person,' while Hanawa (塙) insisted he absolutely cannot eat anything less than well-done. The conversation broadened to include rare lovers, and someone remarked 'that's just raw meat—it's gross,' drawing big laughs in the studio.

## Article

## Bunshun Scoop and the 'Enta Comedians' Topic

The episode opened with a discussion about what was described as a historically unprecedented event: two siblings featured in the same weekly tabloid in the same week. The published silhouette images apparently included a distinctive shape—'a silhouette with horns'—that made the subject almost immediately identifiable. The hosts also touched on a reported ban on material by 'Enta comedians,' with speculation flying about whether it was connected to support for a political election. Deciding the topic was too murky to resolve, they quickly declared 'we're keeping this peaceful' and pivoted to cheese-making.

## Ando Natsu Attempts Mozzarella, Gets Cottage Cheese

Ando Natsu described in detail her live-streamed home attempt at making mozzarella. The process requires non-homogenized, low-temperature-pasteurized milk; she picked a bottle from the supermarket that she judged would work. The steps: heat the milk to 55–60°C, add 50–60 ml of grain vinegar per liter to cause separation, divide the whey from the solids, then knead and stretch the solids with heat until they come together. Her temperature control was off, and the milk variety was also questionable, so the curds never stretched—they just crumbled. The finished product was cottage cheese.

When the hosts pointed out 'that's completely different,' she shot back: 'It just didn't stretch—the flavour is mozzarella.'

She also recalled a variety programme called 'Pinpon Daiko-sha' (ピンポン代行者) she appeared on about ten years ago, where she succeeded in making a large string-cheese-style block alongside a professional. The process involved pulling and stretching dough in near-boiling water at around 90°C until it became fibrous like udon noodles—a detail that stayed with her.

## Shrimp Obsession and Food Talk

Ando Natsu's dream meal: eating a shrimp the size of her own body. She imagined something far bigger than spiny lobster (伊勢エビ) or American lobster, and wanted to work through it as a full course—sashimi, tempura, deep-fried, mayo-grilled, and avocado-shrimp gratin. At conveyor-belt sushi she prefers steamed boiled shrimp above all else, and the day before the episode she had visited Kaiten Zushi Kaiten and enjoyed ark shell fringe (赤貝のひも).

She added that spiny-lobster mayo-grilled had seemed like culinary sacrilege to her until she tried it at a family gathering and the entire table immediately approved.

The conversation branched into whether to eat shrimp tails, shellfish preferences (scallops are great, but a full week of only shellfish would be impossible), and the 'one-week of only X' thought experiment. The verdict: curry hits a wall after three days; soba could last a week given the hot and cold variations. A TV segment was also mentioned in which Yahata Kaori (八幡香織) replaced all cooking oil with lard for a week and lost 2.6 kilograms.

## Fan Recognition at a Red Light via Smartphone Screen

On a morning when Ando Natsu commuted by motorbike, rain started on the way home and left her soaking wet at a red light. She felt a strong gaze from the man in the car beside her—her first thought was 'not another candid-camera situation'—but when she turned to look, he was smiling and holding his smartphone toward her. The screen read: 'Are you Ando Natsu?' She had been called out through an open car window before, but receiving a text-on-screen inquiry was entirely new. She raised her hand in response.

The same day brought another celebrity-encounter story: Tsuchiya (土屋) and Trauden Toreka (トラウデン都花) ended up in the same elevator at Nippon Broadcasting System. Tsuchiya noted he is often not recognised, while Trauden immediately greeted everyone with a proper 'Good morning'—prompting admiration: 'That's impressive. Smart woman.'

## Drama 'Banshaku no Ryuugi' and the Steak Doneness Debate

Wada-san (和田さん) appears in the new series of the drama Banshaku no Ryuugi (晩酌の流儀), starring Kuriyama Chiaki (栗山千明), as a stakeout detective whose defining trait is an obsessive commitment to cooking proper meals during surveillance. In one key scene he and his partner argue at length over whether to make garlic steak or Japanese-style steak—continuing the argument even after the suspect makes a move, completely ignoring the target. There is also a slapstick sequence where they storm the wrong house, mistaking it for the suspect's. The wrap party served actual garlic steak, which everyone agreed was exceptional.

The steak conversation spread into the studio. Ando Natsu positioned herself as a 'red-meat, just a touch past medium-rare' person. Hanawa (塙) was immovable: well-done only, no exceptions. When rare enthusiasts were brought up, someone fired back 'that's just raw meat, it's disgusting,' and the studio erupted.

## Takeaways

- Ando Natsu's live-streamed mozzarella attempt ended in cottage cheese due to temperature mismanagement and the wrong type of milk—an endearingly public failure.
- Ando Natsu's dream of eating a body-sized shrimp across every possible cooking style anchored a wide-ranging food conversation that included the one-week-lard experiment and shellfish limits.
- A fan holding up a smartphone screen at a red light to ask 'Are you Ando Natsu?' gave Ando her first-ever phone-screen recognition moment, which the hosts described as 'restrained and lovely.'