# ep.293 今や誰も知らないANNiの話 - Show: 銀シャリのおトぎばなし【NEW】 - Published: 2026-10-07 - Canonical: https://podc.club/en/episode/1554426222_aca5d008452f.html - Audio: https://traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/67122501-9b17-4d77-84bd-a93d00dc791e/6b872bef-6361-418f-9dd8-acd000ae4859/1512b464-3e79-423b-96fc-b4db00ef4954/audio.mp3?utm_source=Podcast&in_playlist=12e96224-2b51-4ef8-9e01-b29c00454850 - Source: Edited from a machine transcript of the first 30 minutes of the episode. Not an official summary. Gin Shari (銀シャリ) have announced that their show will reach its 300th episode on November 25, and are celebrating with a listener survey asking fans to vote for their favorite past episodes. The duo launched the program in March 2021 as "All Night Nippon i (ANNi) Gin Shari no Otogi Banashi" before moving to podcast format. Episode 293 covers etiquette and hypocrisy, the boke-tsukkomi hierarchy, the paradox of hat-wearing manners, and the pair's shared shift away from sugary drinks. ## What this episode answers ### Is there any value in being polite when the desire to look good is obvious to everyone around you? Both agree that performative politeness is still worth doing — being seen through is better than being rude — though Unagi (うなぎ) admits he is unsettled when a junior comedian suddenly bows deeply to a powerful senior, describing it as the person "flying over to my side" out of nowhere. ### Which role — boke or tsukkomi — is the true "ace" of a comedy duo? Unagi argues the boke is the ace: everyone who wants to be a comedian aims to be the boke, and tsukkomi is where you end up when you can't pull it off. The existence of exceptional tsukkomists like Hamada-san, Kosugi-san, Football Hour's Goto-san, and Yamazoe-san makes it look like a major position, but the moment an ace (boke) grovels before a senior, the duo's standing goes cold. ### Why does wearing a hat make someone appear more polite? Hashimoto's (橋本) theory: a person without a hat just says "excuse me," while a person with a hat has to go through the extra step of removing it, which makes them look more polite by comparison — a paradox that means if you want to appear well-mannered, you should put on a hat so you can take it off. ### What kind of event is planned to mark the show's 300th episode? For the 300th episode airing on November 25, a large listener survey called "Recommended Episodes" will be held, collecting votes for memorable episodes and beginner-friendly picks to compile an introduction list; they have opted not to invite guests for a lavish celebration. ### How do the two interpret the fact that listeners rarely react on social media? The pair interpret the near-silence positively as proof of a "high-quality audience" — people who are not chasing impressions on X but are living full lives offline — and they note that the written comments sent in notebooks tend to be lengthy, passionate, and full of praise. ## Article ## The Debate Over Politeness and "Hypocrisy" Hashimoto opens by noting a type he occasionally encounters: someone whose politeness is clearly driven by the desire to be seen as serious and admirable. The "look how earnest I am" quality bleeds through. Even so, both comedians land on the same conclusion — hypocrisy is fine, doing something is better than doing nothing. Where things get more complicated is with the junior comedian who suddenly prostrates himself before a powerful senior. Unagi describes the experience of having that person "fly over to my side" as genuinely bewildering. He says he is more drawn to people who treat everyone the same regardless of status, and that power-chasing behavior leaves him cold. ## The Boke Is the Ace — A Theory of Tsukkomi Unagi lays out his thesis plainly: everyone who enters the comedy world wants to be the boke. Tsukkomi, he argues, is where you end up when the boke role doesn't work out — it is by nature a secondary position. The reason it looks like a major career path at all is that a handful of extraordinary performers — Hamada-san, Kosugi-san, Football Hour's (フットボールアワー) Goto-san, Yamazoe-san — have made it into something impressive. Strip those exceptions away and tsukkomi is still support. The consequence of this view: the moment an ace (boke) bows his head to a senior, the duo's perceived status drops instantly. Unagi concedes, with a rueful laugh, that even he changed his own demeanor when he finally got to drink with Nabeyakan (なべやかん), someone he had watched since middle school. ## The Hat Paradox Hashimoto has been sitting on this theory for a while. A person not wearing a hat walks in and says "excuse me" — nothing more. A person wearing a hat walks in, says "excuse me," and then removes the hat. That extra step, the physical act of deferring, makes them look demonstrably more polite, even if the intention behind it is identical. The conclusion the two reach, half-jokingly: if you want to appear well-mannered, wear a hat so you can take it off. The conversation branches out into restaurant hat etiquette, the phenomenon of "etiquette police," and the left-handedness debate before Hashimoto draws a line: "I'm sick of etiquette police. Please stop." ## Show Announcement — 300 Episodes and the History of "ANNi" The show launched in March 2021 under the full title "All Night Nippon i (オールナイトニッポンi) Gin Shari no Otogi Banashi." Unagi notes that the "ANNi" name is now something nobody remembers. The program has continued through its transition to podcast format, and the November 25 episode will mark exactly 300 total installments. The 300th-episode event is a listener survey — "Recommended Episodes" — where fans vote for episodes that left an impression and episodes they would suggest to newcomers, with the results compiled and announced as a beginner's guide. The idea of inviting guests for a bigger celebration was floated, but one of them likened it to a beloved local tonkatsu restaurant suddenly being featured in a magazine and developing a queue — an outcome they'd rather avoid. Both close by thanking listeners for making 300 episodes possible. ## Listener Quality and the Drinks Conversation The near-total silence from listeners on social media is framed by the duo not as indifference but as a badge of honor: proof of a high-quality audience. Their read is that the show's fans are not people who live for impressions on X but people with actual lives offline. The comments that do arrive — written in notebooks — tend to run long, carry real enthusiasm, and are overwhelmingly positive. From there the conversation turns to what both describe as the current "no-sweetness boom." Both have dropped juice entirely and moved to sparkling water, tea, and black coffee. The specifics get granular: a 500 ml canned coffee is too much, 275 ml is plenty; and a coffee with a black label that turns out to be sweet is treated as a personal offense. ## Memories of Standout Past Episodes With the 300th-episode survey in mind, the two look back at moments that have stuck. Hashimoto's habit of repeating a drama catchphrase — including "Mou ee desho" from the Jimenshi storyline — over and over in one episode. Unagi's overseas travel story that stretched across multiple weeks. The mango incident in an airport bathroom. The "Karamucho Incident." And the "Mansion Human-Waste Incident" — Hashimoto reveals that while sorting through paperwork recently, he came across documents and on-site photographs from that very episode, sending both of them into fits. ## Takeaways - Both Hashimoto and Unagi agree that performative politeness still has value — being seen through is better than doing nothing — but grovel-before-the-powerful behavior leaves them cold. - Unagi's firm position is that the boke is a duo's ace, and the moment that ace bows to a senior, the duo's standing drops; tsukkomi only looks prestigious because a few exceptional practitioners have elevated it. - The show reaches its 300th episode on November 25 with a listener-voted "Recommended Episodes" survey, and the pair credit their unusually quiet but high-quality fanbase for making the milestone possible.